Comments on: Figuring out your Enneagram number http://www.susanpiver.com/wordpress/2008/01/02/figuring-out-your-enneagram-number/ Susan Piver - Meditation, Relationships, Creativity Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:23:08 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: susan http://www.susanpiver.com/wordpress/2008/01/02/figuring-out-your-enneagram-number/#comment-528 susan Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:24:03 +0000 http://www.susanpiver.com/wordpress/2008/01/02/figuring-out-your-enneagram-number/#comment-528 Kirby, many thanks for your comments. They inspired me to write more than just a comment back! http://www.susanpiver.com/2008/01/16/further-on-the-enneagram/ Kirby, many thanks for your comments. They inspired me to write more than just a comment back! http://www.susanpiver.com/2008/01/16/further-on-the-enneagram/

]]> By: Kirby Olson http://www.susanpiver.com/wordpress/2008/01/02/figuring-out-your-enneagram-number/#comment-527 Kirby Olson Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:13:04 +0000 http://www.susanpiver.com/wordpress/2008/01/02/figuring-out-your-enneagram-number/#comment-527 P.S. I don't know if this test is more accurate than any other one, but I like the layout. It was done by a retired Dutch jazz drummer who lives in Holland. Try this one! There are actually two versions of it, both free: http://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/dotest.php P.S. I don’t know if this test is more accurate than any other one, but I like the layout. It was done by a retired Dutch jazz drummer who lives in Holland. Try this one! There are actually two versions of it, both free:

http://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/dotest.php

]]> By: Kirby Olson http://www.susanpiver.com/wordpress/2008/01/02/figuring-out-your-enneagram-number/#comment-526 Kirby Olson Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:10:46 +0000 http://www.susanpiver.com/wordpress/2008/01/02/figuring-out-your-enneagram-number/#comment-526 I find it much easier to see other people's numbers than to see mine. The system was immediately useful to me in seeing my mother, my brothers, and many important people. But for myself: that was hard. Too many trees to see the forest. I've been typed as a nine, a four, a seven, and a five, by enneagram experts. My hunch is that I'm a four. Reading your ideas made me think: yeah, maybe I'm a four. I did read all the books. But they contradict each other. One says that Kierkegaard is a five, and another says he is a four. Same thing for Kurt Cobain. It's kind of tricky, as people have slightly different criteria for the different numbers. I wish you had said which online tests typed you in which way and therefore which one is accurate. I do think it's important to try to go back before you started working on yourself. I'm fifty now and am a professor at a small college (literature, philosophy, and composition). But thirty years ago it's easier to see myself as a four. At 15, even easier. I definitely was not the fivish sort that I seem to be now. And as a kid: there's no way I would have typed as a five. So that part was helpful. People acquire a lot of armor as they get older, I suppose, and you have to make sure the armor isn't what you are typing. Nice to read your stuff! I find it much easier to see other people’s numbers than to see mine. The system was immediately useful to me in seeing my mother, my brothers, and many important people.

But for myself: that was hard. Too many trees to see the forest.

I’ve been typed as a nine, a four, a seven, and a five, by enneagram experts. My hunch is that I’m a four.

Reading your ideas made me think: yeah, maybe I’m a four. I did read all the books. But they contradict each other. One says that Kierkegaard is a five, and another says he is a four. Same thing for Kurt Cobain. It’s kind of tricky, as people have slightly different criteria for the different numbers.

I wish you had said which online tests typed you in which way and therefore which one is accurate. I do think it’s important to try to go back before you started working on yourself. I’m fifty now and am a professor at a small college (literature, philosophy, and composition). But thirty years ago it’s easier to see myself as a four. At 15, even easier. I definitely was not the fivish sort that I seem to be now. And as a kid: there’s no way I would have typed as a five.

So that part was helpful. People acquire a lot of armor as they get older, I suppose, and you have to make sure the armor isn’t what you are typing.

Nice to read your stuff!

]]> By: susan http://www.susanpiver.com/wordpress/2008/01/02/figuring-out-your-enneagram-number/#comment-499 susan Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:34:17 +0000 http://www.susanpiver.com/wordpress/2008/01/02/figuring-out-your-enneagram-number/#comment-499 PS The first test, "Variant Test," is about subtype. Each type has 3 subtypes. Although this test won't tell you your type per se, it will indicate whether you lean toward self-preservation, social, or one-to-one subtype. Which is helpful. More about that later... PS The first test, “Variant Test,” is about subtype. Each type has 3 subtypes. Although this test won’t tell you your type per se, it will indicate whether you lean toward self-preservation, social, or one-to-one subtype. Which is helpful. More about that later…

]]> By: susan http://www.susanpiver.com/wordpress/2008/01/02/figuring-out-your-enneagram-number/#comment-498 susan Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:27:40 +0000 http://www.susanpiver.com/wordpress/2008/01/02/figuring-out-your-enneagram-number/#comment-498 For sure: http://similarminds.com/personality_tests.html I recommend taking several (or all, if you have time) and then running through the self-analysis. Please let me know what you discover. And should questions/observations arise, let me know these too! For sure: http://similarminds.com/personality_tests.html

I recommend taking several (or all, if you have time) and then running through the self-analysis.

Please let me know what you discover. And should questions/observations arise, let me know these too!

]]> By: Robert Birkenes http://www.susanpiver.com/wordpress/2008/01/02/figuring-out-your-enneagram-number/#comment-497 Robert Birkenes Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:17:59 +0000 http://www.susanpiver.com/wordpress/2008/01/02/figuring-out-your-enneagram-number/#comment-497 Susan, Can you share with your website visitors the list of free Enneagram sites? When I tried looking for these before, I struggled to find *even one* that was actually free. Often the Enneagram sites start out claiming to be free but end up requiring a membership or paid subscription. Of the existing free ones, can you recommend one that seems to give the most accurate assessment? Or do you recommend taking several tests, and then running through the basic self-analysis as you described in section 4 above? Best wishes, Bob Susan,

Can you share with your website visitors the list of free Enneagram sites? When I tried looking for these before, I struggled to find *even one* that was actually free. Often the Enneagram sites start out claiming to be free but end up requiring a membership or paid subscription.

Of the existing free ones, can you recommend one that seems to give the most accurate assessment? Or do you recommend taking several tests, and then running through the basic self-analysis as you described in section 4 above?

Best wishes,
Bob

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