Writers, Fear, and Meditation
I recently did a phone interview with The Writing Spirit. Since I’m just back from teaching a week-long meditation retreat for writers, I thought I’d post it, since these themes are very much on my mind.
JULIE: I see that you’re about to lead a new meditation retreat for writers in a week. Are you looking forward to it?
SUSAN: I’m looking forward to it very much. I have tremendous love for this combination, meditation and writing. They seem to go together extremely well.
JULIE: I agree. And that’s what I’d like to talk to you about today.
So, Susan, what type of meditation practice do you teach?
SUSAN: I teach a practice called Shamatha, which is a Sanskrit word that means calm abiding or tranquilly abiding. It dates from the time of the Buddha, about 2500 years ago, and is a basic breath awareness meditation; meaning, instead of allowing your thoughts to absorb your attention, you place your attention on your breath instead.
JULIE: Susan, how does meditation relate to mindfulness?
SUSAN: Well, meditation, I guess could be thought of as the cultivation of mindfulness. Because mindfulness, it’s come to be associated with many things, but I think all it is, is attention to the present moment, being in the present moment. Meditation is practicing being in the present moment so that when you’re off the cushion, you can more readily employ mindfulness as you wish.
But it’s not something in our very speedy world that we can just suddenly do. Okay, now I’m mindful, or I need to be more mindful. Well, yeah, we all need to be more mindful, but it’s not a matter of will. It’s a matter of practice and experience and a cultivation of mindfulness. And that’s what meditation does.
JULIE: Is there any aspect of surrender in that? Surrender to the moment? Or is it more cultivation?
SUSAN: Well, I don’t know. What do you mean by surrender?
JULIE: When talking about the willfulness and focusing on thought and not being in the moment. To me, being in the moment is a relaxing, is surrendering. So, I’m just wondering how that relates to your view of mindfulness and being in the moment?
SUSAN: I think you used the key word, which is relaxing…which is, I guess, the same thing as opening. I suppose surrender could mean the same thing. But at the same time, if you’re focused surrendering, you’re not paying attention. You know what I mean?
If you’re engaged in surrendering, you’re not so much engaged in what’s happening. And sometimes it feels great to be engaged in what’s happening, but sometimes it doesn’t feel very good. And you wish you didn’t have to. But, nonetheless, the ability to relax enough to relate with your world is critical. Perhaps you could call it surrendering or relaxing or allowing. I think we probably mean the same things by these words.
Here is the full transcript. Warning: it’s long….




2 comments
Hi Susan, Thank you so much for the link to the entire transcript. I would love to have a conversation with you about meditation and writing and being a #4 on the Enneagram and the interview covers two thirds of that territory. The joy that you impart in doing what your life calls you to do is palpable to me and that gives me courage to face what I have been running from and what has broken my heart- not writing. There is something so encouraging about the way that you are able to articulate these experiences that live in such a tender and vulnerable place inside of me. Even if I never publish a word, I need to be writing on a daily basis and that is unknown territory and therefore presents a koan for me to live.
Would also love to do a retreat with you some time- are you ever going to be in Oregon or Washington? For now, I must draw from the wisdom in your books, your blog, etc. You give all of us meditating writers a great gift with your willingness to explore fear in such an open and joyful way– (emphasis on the joyful part).
Loved the chapter from your new book and look forward to reading it in its entirety next year. I wish you continued deepening in your practice and great success in your writing.
With warm wishes and gratitude,
Kate Mazetier
Hi Kate. You mentioned my favorite topics: meditation, writing, and the enneagram!
It is so easy to understand fear of writing. It’s scary. I have never known a writer who didn’t find it difficult to sit in front of the blank page. However, there are solutions! If I ever do a retreat in Oregon or Washington, it would be great to see you at a writers’ retreat. I’m teaching in CO in October–is that too far?!
Many thanks for being in touch and for the kind words about my new book.
All best, Susan
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